i can just tell you, andrea, i did it in virginia, governors like christie and scott and kasic and walker have done it in all of their states, mitt romney did it when he was governor of massachusetts, $3.5 billion deficit eliminated, and it can be done. is it going to be easy? are people going to have short-term pain? yes. is it necessary in order to be -- restore the fiscal posture of the u.s., absolutely. >> thank you, governor mcdodge. the question for both candidates is going to be what sacrifice and what specifics are they willing to cut and where and how does it all add up. thank you very much. we'll be watching the debates with you and others. and up next, back to the bench. what to expect when the supreme court can veens today for the new term. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than using a traditional lawyer? well, legalzoom came up with a better way. we took the best of the old and combined it with modern technology. togeth